Sola
Scriptura Negative Rebuttal Essay
By:Matthew James Bellisario 2008
Sacred Tradition as taught by Pope Benedict XVI
I find it quite odd the Turretin Fan says in his
rebuttal, that I am at odds with the Catechism, the
Church and the Pope's in my exposition of Tradition in my
first opening essay. I wonder if my opponent knows that
the source I quoted from in my opening essay, that of
Pope Benedict XVI, is the same man who also helped put
together, and ultimately approve the Catechism, and is
also the Pope of the Church, which Turretine says I am
opposed to. The Catechism is an introductory overview of
the Catholic and faith and does not address each topic in
depth. It is a fallacy of selective emphasis to make the
accusation that my elaboration on the subject opposes
that of the Catechism passages my opponent quotes. If you
read the text in the Catechism you will find nothing that
opposes what I have written on Tradition in my opening
essay, and I in fact explain it in much more detail, in
line with what the Pope himself teaches. Turretin says
that “Thus, while MB may have an opinion about the
relation between Scripture and Tradition, the official
teachings of the papists are somewhat at variance with at
least some of MB’s comments.” I guess Turrretin did not
see that almost all of my quotes were from the Pope
himself on the subject, and were not my opinion, but the
teaching of the Church.
Turretin said in his rebuttal, “such that the papists do
not derive their certainty about all revealed truths from
the Scriptures alone but from Scriptures Plus.'” Turretin
has not given any reason for us to believe his statement.
I have proven from the Pope himself that Tradition is not
something plus Scripture, but it is one in the same
gospel in two different forms which is what the passages
of the Catechism he quotes says. TF tries to tell me what
the Catholic Church teaches, but fails to prove it. I
have provided plenty of sources to prove the the Catholic
Church teaches that Tradition and Scripture are the same
deposit of the Word of God, not two separate sources of
Revelation. These books and documents prove my point,
(Ratzinger, God's Word, pg27), (James Monti The Writings
of Saint Thomas More pgs 165-170) , (Dei Verbum 10), So
much for TF's argument that I am going against the Popes
and the Church in the definition I presented in my
opening statement. It is obviously not true. Dei Verbum
10 from the Second Vatican Council says,
“10.
Sacred tradition and Sacred Scripture form one sacred
deposit of the word of God, committed to the
Church.” So much for
this smokescreen of trying to put up an apparent
contradiction that is not there. A blatant case of
selective emphasis indeed.
The
Unanimous, Clear Witness of Every Ancient Church before
the “Reformation”
I would also like to point out that every apostolic
Church that can be traced back before the “Reformation”
holds that Sacred Scripture cannot be separated from
Sacred Tradition. They all hold that Sola Scriptura has
never been, nor ever will be a Christian belief. The
Gospel understood by all of the ancient apostolic
Churches includes the use of Sacred Tradition, both in
the interpretive aspect and the Revelation aspect.
Here Orthodox scholar Fr Florovsky writes
“We
cannot assert that Scripture is self-sufficient; and this
is not because it is incomplete, or inexact, or has any
defects, but because Scripture in its very essence does
not lay claim to self-sufficiency. . . . If we declare
Scripture to be self-sufficient, we only expose it to
subjective, arbitrary interpretation, thus cutting it
away from its sacred source. Scripture is given to us in
tradition. It is the vital, crystallising centre. The
Church, as the Body of Christ, stands mystically first
and is fuller than Scripture. This does not limit
Scripture, or cast shadows on it. But truth is revealed
to us not only historically. Christ appeared and still
appears before us not only in the Scriptures; He
unchangeably and unceasingly reveals Himself in the
Church, in His own Body. In the times of the early
Christians the Gospels were not yet written and could not
be the sole source of knowledge. The Church acted
according to the spirit of the Gospel, and, what is more,
the Gospel came to life in the Church, in the Holy
Eucharist. In the Christ of the Holy Eucharist Christians
learned to know the Christ of the Gospels, and so His
image became vivid to them.” Fr. George Florovsky, Bible,
Church, Tradition: An Eastern Orthodox View, pp.
48-49
The Coptic
Orthodox profess, “The Holy
Scriptures in fact are a part of the Church tradition.
The tradition in its essence is declaring the word of God
by various methods. For tradition concentrated on the
apostolic teaching. The appearance of the books of the
New Testament did not cancel the tradition, but these
books command us to preserve the tradition (2 John 12; 3
John 13:14; 1 Cor. 11:34; Titus 1:5; 2 Thes. 3:16; John
21:25; 2 Cor. 11:23).” (http://www.copticchurch.net/topics/thecopticchurch/church3-3.html)
The fact is
no matter what apostolic Church we find, they all profess
to Sacred Tradition. All of the Orthodox including The
Syrians, the Malankara, the Coptic, Eritrean, Ethiopian,
including those Churches also that separated away during
the 4th Ecumenical Council still hold to this profession.
We also must concede that all of the Eastern Catholic
churches also hold to this. I wonder if anyone reading
this is beginning to observe something here? All of this
doctrine was challenged and changed when the “Reformers”
came along. There is not one profession of faith from any
ancient, apostolic Church that resembles the
proclamations made by Turretin or the Westminster
Confession that he cites in regards to Scripture Alone.
Unless every Church on the face of the earth was in error
for the better part of 1500 years, including those that
separated in the 4th century, the “Reformed” position of
Sola Scriptura is not even worth a serious consideration
of belief. There is simply no reason to believe that it
was a teaching of any ancient Church. All of these
Church's were reading the same Scriptures for almost 1400
years, and none of them deduced a Sola Scriptura
doctrine. I guess they were all wrong until the
“Reformation” came along. I would love to see anyone
challenge the historical existence of all of these
Churches in which none of them hold to this false
doctrine.
The Fallacy of “Hand Me Down Tradition” Argument
Tf would also like you to believe that none of the Church
Fathers were speaking of Tradition in the way that I
prescribed in my opening essay. He claims that they were
just referring to “hand me down traditions” and not that
of the interpretive aspect. Tradition is not just
interpretive of that of the Sacred Scriptures as I
explained in my opening essay. It also that which is not
found in Sacred Scripture, because the Gospel is not
presented in one form, but two, written and unwritten.
Yet they are not separate sources different from each
other. For example, just because there are 3 persons in
the Holy Trinity does not mean that they are not one in
substance; the same is said for Scripture and Tradition.
TF said “That’s not what MB is claiming, though – as
demonstrated by his comment that “Tradition is not just
quoting Church Fathers” It is what I have claimed since I
made the case of what comprises Sacred Tradition. That
which I quoted St Basil affirms my position that not
everything God has revealed to us is contained in the
written form of the Gospel, but both oral and written. St
Basil indeed proves that not every dogma is revealed by
Scripture alone, but by oral Tradition accompanied by
apostolic succession. There is no rule that one quote has
to address both aspects of Tradition. Saint Basil proves
that we have both a written and an unwritten aspect to
the Gospel proclamation. Origin as well proves that
believers in the Church at his time believed the same.
Origin writes in his Preface #2 to the Fundamental
Doctrines the following, “2. Since
many, however, of those who profess to believe in Christ
differ from each other, not only in small and trifling
matters, but also on subjects of the highest importance,
as, e.g., regarding God, or the Lord Jesus Christ, or the
Holy Spirit; and not only regarding these, but also
regarding others which are created existences, viz., the
powers and the holy virtues; it seems on that account
necessary first of all to fix a definite limit and to lay
down an unmistakable rule regarding each one of these,
and then to pass to the investigation of other points.
For as we ceased to seek for truth (notwithstanding the
professions of many among Greeks and Barbarians to make
it known) among all who claimed it for erroneous
opinions, after we had come to believe that Christ was
the Son of God, and were persuaded that we must learn it
from Himself; so, seeing there are many who think they
hold the opinions of Christ, and yet some of these think
differently from their predecessors, yet as the teaching
of the Church,
transmitted in orderly succession from the apostles,
and remaining in the Churches to the present day, is
still preserved, that alone is to be accepted as truth
which differs in no respect from ecclesiastical and
apostolical tradition.”
Tf has yet to
really address this issue.
The Westminster Confession, To Be Or Not To Be
We can see that TF gives us no reason to believe the
authority of the Westminster Confession. In fact he says
it holds no real authority. He then tries to shift the
tables on me concerning authority which completely falls
on its face. He says I have no authority to challenge the
Westminster Confession. First I do not make this claim on
my own authority, but that of Christ's Church which is
the bulwark of Truth. Secondly TF uses I John 4:1 to
justify the “Reformed” authority to quote and use the
“Confession”, yet no place in this passage of John does
it name TF nor the Confession as being given any
authority. Here we see TF taking I John 4:1 out of
context and he quotes it in a butchered incomplete
manner. He quotes the passage as such to give you a vague
incomplete understanding of the text. He quotes,
(“…believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether
they are of God…”) Lets read the full text of it so we
can all see how misconstrued his use of this passage is.
I John 4:1-3 “1 Dearly
beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits if
they be of God: because many false prophets are gone out
into the world. 2 By this is the spirit of God known.
Every spirit which confesseth that Jesus Christ is come
in the flesh, is of God: 3 And every spirit that
dissolveth Jesus, is not of God: and this is Antichrist,
of whom you have heard that he cometh, and he is now
already in the world.”
The real
aspect Tf falls into concerning this passage is one of
division as I will conclude in this essay, which for one,
puts him at the wrong end of this passage of Scripture.
“And every
spirit that dissolveth Jesus, is not of God: and this is
Antichrist.” Secondly it
tells us to not to believe every spirit. How does this
fit into TF's argument that he has the ultimate authority
to define Sacred Scripture, and define a “confession” to
go by? It is nothing more than self proclaimed authority,
one which Scripture never justifies. Another case of
selective emphasis on Tf's part to shoehorn a Scriptural
verse into something that it never addresses. Authority
must be substantial, not self proclaimed. TF wallows back
and forth claiming the “Confession” carries no intrinsic
authority, yet then goes on to quote Scripture trying to
justify it , and himself as speaking in an authoritative
manner. Which is it? I John is telling us to compare the
spirits with what has been given to us by Jesus Christ
through His Church. It doesn't justify us to create our
own churches, or that we all are able to define our
doctrines, dogmas and confessions, and decide for
ourselves guided by the Holy Spirit of what the
Scriptures are and how we are to interpret them. Turretin
takes a half quoted fragment of a sentence of Scripture
and tries to justify all of this.
I already presented the passages to you from Scripture
proving that authority is something handed down by
succession, from that of the apostles themselves. TF
defeats his own argument by proclaiming “' Second, it is
not the confession speaking for itself, the confession is
the testimony of the Reformed churches in the Scottish
tradition. It is a summary of shared beliefs, not a
document carrying or asserting intrinsic authority.” Once
again who cares what the summary of the “Reformed”
churches teach? Once again we see a stark contrast in the
gospel of men versus the gospel of Jesus Christ. TF
doesn't even consider that he is proclaiming the gospel
of Jesus Christ, nor that of the apostles, but his own
Scottish tradition. All of his attack on “Church
Tradition” and yet he gives us his own version of
tradition, the beliefs of the Scottish Reformed
testimony. I don't know why anyone would care what the
Scottish tradition was. I would think they would want to
know what the universal tradition of the Church was. Most
people would want a gospel proclamation that can be
substantially and historically traced back to Jesus and
his apostles rather than some Scots who came up with
their own confession in 1646. Also it seems that TF is
not even familiar with his own confession, because it was
largely the Church of England that drew it up. So now we
have the Scottish and English traditions in this so
called “Confession.” Finally TF then goes on to say that
he has the Holy Spirit, but I the papist does not. Once
again he gives us not one reason to believe what he says,
and provides no substance to why we should believe him.
The Westminster Confession, Manmade Tradition.
Tf said in his opening statement, “Thus, at least on its
face (and until someone has given us reason to doubt
their proofs), we might conclude that the WCF’s chapter
I, on the doctrine of Scripture were properly derived
from Scripture.” We can see that taking up this challenge
is like taking candy from a 2 year old. Few things the
“Confession” proclaims can be found in Sacred Scripture.
It claims the Church is not needed to give us the canon
of the Scriptures. It gives us a Biblical Canon which is
not given to us by the Scriptures themselves. Mere men
put the “Confession” together trying to promulgate what
they determined to be the Canon, not God. As far as I
know God has not given TF a list of the Canon. Unless he
or those who wrote this highly esteemed “Confession” can
prove that God told them what the Canon is, then I nor
anyone else has any reason to believe them. The universal
Church guided by the Holy Spirit has determined the Canon
as well as the full Revelation of God. This authority is
given by Jesus through His apostles as I have already
proven from Scripture itself. The Westminster Confession
falls into the same unsubstantiated argument that TF
does. It assumes a whole unproven foundation from which
to promulgate its manmade traditions from.
The “confession” goes against the Scripture when it tells
us in article IX. The infallible rule of interpretation
of Scripture, is the Scripture itself; and therefore,
when there is a question about the true and full sense of
any scripture (which is not manifold, but one), it may be
searched and known by other places that speak more
clearly.” However this novelty is not the sole rule to be
used for the interpretation of Sacred Scripture. How do
we know that this is so? Because Sacred Scripture tells
us so, thats why. In Acts 8 29-30 we see Scripture giving
us an example of a method contrary to the only infallible
method given to us by the manmade “confession”. It
reads, “29 And
the Spirit said to Philip: Go near, and join thyself to
this chariot. 30 And Philip running thither, heard him
reading the prophet Isaias. And he said: Thinkest thou
that thou understandest what thou readest? 31 Who said:
And how can I, unless some man show me? And he desired
Philip that he would come up and sit with
him.” We can see
here that Scripture cannot always be understood from
Sacred Scripture itself, but from someone with authority
who can explain it.
Contraception Argument Avoided
I found it interesting how only two short paragraphs were
used to address the contraception topic. In fact no
rational argument was given on why the Scripture verse in
Genesis did not address the issue implicitly. My premise
holds that unless we can properly interpret the Sacred
Scriptures then crucial moral questions such as this one
will be avoided. TF says, “The problem with this argument
is that one has to first assume that the papist position
(contraception is evil) in order to see acceptance of
contraception by non-Catholics as a problem.” This of
course is incorrect for we can this issue being addressed
in the Sacred Scriptures. Using his arguments about
statistics in Catholic countries has nothing to do with
the argument and can be chalked up to a red herring. TF
is leading you away from the real argument to get you to
focus on statistics which have no bearing on the teaching
of the use of contraception. The use of contraceptives in
Catholic countries has no bearing on the Church's
teaching. The Church can teach, but people must give
their assent to the Church.
Shifting the Burden of Proof
When this debate was proposed, it was accepted that TF
was in the affirmative position, not I. Yet we can see
him constantly trying to shift the burden of proof to me
to take the heat off of his very weak arguments. It is
his task to prove Sola Scriptura, which he has obviously
not even come close to doing.
Has Scripture Alone Been Proven?
Turretin has not yet proven the Scriptures alone are the
sole rule and proclamation of the Gospel. In fact he
agreed in his rebuttal that St. Basil was talking about
what he calls a hand me down Tradition, in which St.
Basil makes clear that not all doctrines or dogmas are
written down. This would defeat his own argument. Most of
his opening statement he uses his “Search the Scriptures”
argument, which no one is even questioning, nor debating.
Then he tries to give us the Westminster Confession to
summarize what he believes, yet he says it is not
proclaiming any authority in his opening rebuttal. Once
again. which is it? I have already demonstrated why I,
nor anyone else using deductive logic would believe a
manmade confession. I also have demonstrated a far more
reasonable premise, one in which the Gospel is handed
down from Jesus, to his apostles, through the Church
which can prove an apostolic succession. Even if neither
of us could prove our premise, which makes more sense,
and is more in line with the testimony of Sacred
Scripture? Someone quoting a “Confession” from the
Scottish-English tradition, or someone proclaiming the
gospel from a Church that can prove its existence back to
the apostles themselves?
Objection to Scriptural Authority Not Deriving from the
Church
In his opening statement TF tries to prove that Scripture
is authoritative because it is inspired. Yet he never
proves that it is Scripture alone that we must hold to.
The verse he quoted from St Paul doesn't even address the
topic. It speaks of the Word of God, but never says that
the Word is Scripture Alone. This is clearly taking St
Paul out of context in 1 Thessalonians 2:13, and tries to
bend St Paul's meaning of the term Word. As I will
explain, the term Word does not mean written in the
context of the Scripture quotes. Tf avoids the problem of
recognizing what books are inspired and which are not by
claiming that the Holy Spirit tells us. This of course
once again derives from the Church's universal testimony
to them in the several ways I presented in my opening
statement, not each individual guided by the Holy Spirit.
TF then quotes the Scriptures out of context just I like
I told he would do in my opening essay. I addressed II
Timothy in my opening essay, which never says anything
about Scripture Alone. He tries to use Mark 7:1-23 to
prove that Jesus was condemning all extra-Scriptural
tradition, which is completely absurd. He was condemning
traditions of men, which in no way shape or form equates
to all Tradition. Jesus would in fact be talking about
TF's Westminster manmade confession in this passage as
being a tradition of men, not the Gospel Tradition of the
Church. The versus he quotes on Proverbs, Deuteronomy,
And Revelation never address Scripture Alone. Deut 4:2
addressed commandments, never the means that they were
given in a Scripture Alone context. Rev 22:18 is talking
about the book of Revelation, which says no man should
add or take away from it. Where does this imply a
Scripture Alone argument in favor of TF's task to prove
that Scripture Alone is the sole revelation of God? In
fact none of the passages that he quoted gives any
substance to his Scripture Alone argument. He uses
Galatians 1:6-9 as another proof text, but it once again
assumes that the Gospel it is addressing is Scripture
Alone, which it never once claims. I have shown that the
Gospel, according to the Church Fathers, and the Church
herself is not written alone. Therefore Galatians is
telling us that we should not follow a perversion of the
Gospel, which is not just a written one. Tf once again
has used these Scripture quotes based on a false,
unproven premise.
The “Word”
TF goes on quoting Scripture once again defining his own
definition of “Word”. He defines the term Word in the
same context no matter what verse he cites. In fact the
term “Word” in Scripture does not just refer to a written
definition. In fact it is most often used in the NT as
the Gospel of John defines it. John Chapter 1 tells us
what the Word is. The Word is God Himself, not just Holy
Writ. The Word is living, it is God, and it is presented
in written and oral substance infused with the Holy
Spirit. It is the living Trinity being proclaimed by the
Church that Christ Himself gave us. I Tim 3:15 proclaims
the Church as the pillar of truth. II Thess 3:6 also
gives us an aspect to the authority given to Saint Paul
through the Church in reference to tradition, and the
preaching of the Gospel.
Begging the Question
Turretin's whole opening essay is a prime example of the
logical fallacy of Petitio Principii. Turretin assumes
his conclusion for Sola Scriptura is true, but in fact
never proves it. He assumes that every time the term
gospel or Word is used in Sacred Scripture, or by a
Church Father it is referring to Scripture Alone. He
wants us to believe that every reference to the
profitability and the importance of Sacred Scripture
means that it proves his position of Scripture Alone,
when in fact none of the passages do so. Just because the
term word or gospel is used does not mean it is referring
to Scripture alone. You must prove that premise before
you can even begin to think about using any of these
Scripture quotes. Just because the Scriptures are spoken
of as being profitable, and should be held in high regard
does not mean it is the sole substance of the Gospel
separated from Sacred Tradition. TF has never proven this
and so far his whole argument to prove the validity of
Sola Scriptura using these passages of Sacred Scripture
has been based on an unproven premise. It is Turretin
that has the burden of proving his affirmative position.
So far he has not even come close to doing so.
A False Conclusion, an Attack on the Church
TF closes his opening statement with, “The
conclusion of all the above is that Scripture is
authoritative. It is to be believed. It is a reliable
standard by which we may judge other things. There is no
other such standard. What we will turn to? Our church?
But churches have erred.” Must we
consider Christ's Church to have erred? TF would have us
believe that Christ's Church promulgates heresy. I beg to
differ, and so do the Sacred Scriptures.
The Sacred Scriptures tell us in I Tim 3:15,
“But if I
tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to
behave thyself in the house of God, which is
the church of the
living God, the pillar and ground of the
truth.” Ephesians
3:10-13 tells us, “10 That
the manifold wisdom of God may be made known to the
principalities and powers in heavenly places
through the church,11
According to the eternal purpose, which he made, in
Christ Jesus our Lord: 12 In whom we have boldness and
access with confidence by the faith of him. 13 Wherefore
I pray you not to faint at my tribulations for you, which
is your glory.” Ephesians
5:23-24 gives us an example of the Church and its
relation to Christ, “23
Because the husband is the head of the wife,
as
Christ is the head of the
church. He is
the saviour of his body. 24 Therefore as the church is
subject to Christ, so also let the wives be to their
husbands in all things.
Saint
Irenaeus (c202AD) also tells us in Against Heresies, the
3rd
book,
4th
Chapter that
the Church gives us all things pertaining to the
truth, “1.
Since therefore we have such proofs, it is not necessary
to seek the truth among others
which it is easy to obtain from the
Church; since
the apostles, like a rich man [depositing his money] in a
bank, lodged in her hands most copiously all things
pertaining to the truth: so that every man, whosoever
will, can draw from her the water of life.
17.
For she is the entrance to
life;
all others are thieves and
robbers. On this
account are we bound to avoid them, but to make choice of
the thing pertaining to the Church with the utmost
diligence, and to lay hold of the tradition of the truth.
For how stands the case? Suppose there arise a dispute
relative to some important question Latin, “modica
quæstione.” among us, should we not have recourse to the
most ancient Churches with
which the apostles held constant
intercourse, and learn from them what is certain and
clear in regard to the present question? For how should
it be if the apostles themselves had not left us
writings? Would it not be necessary, [in that case,] to
follow the course of the tradition which they handed down
to those to whom they did commit the
Churches?” Finally we
know that Jesus gave us one Church that would not fail us
because he tells so in the Gospel of Matthew 16:15-19.
Are
we now to assume that the Church that Jesus Christ is the
head of gives us false doctrine? Are we to assume that
the pillar of truth that Sacred Scripture declares, is
not really a pillar of truth at all, but a deceiving
witness to the living Gospel? The real conclusion we can
deduce from history is that anyone following the
doctrines of the “Reformation” are dividing the body of
Christ. How many more denominations do we need that
believe they have the Holy Spirit and that they are the
ones interpreting the Sacred Scriptures correctly? How
many “Protestant” groups do we need telling us, that all
of God's Revelation is found in Sacred Scriptures alone,
yet add their own traditions anyways? The Protestant
seminary Gordon-Conwell lists over 9000 "denominations"
on their university website. (World Christian Database
2004) The doctrinal differences of these denominations
range from but are not limited to liturgical beliefs,
justification, the operations of baptism, the definition
of Holy Communion, marriage and divorce, moral issues
like abortion, and birth control and the list goes on .
We look to the Scriptures and they proclaim a unity, Ut
unum sint! Jesus prays for this unity of the Church in
the Gospel of St John Chpt 17, “20 And
not for them only do I pray, but for them also who
through their word shall believe in me; 21 That they all
may be one, as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee; that
they also may be one in us; that the world may believe
that thou hast sent me.”
A
Final Thought
The question you have to ask yourself is what church body
and authority are you going to follow. Are you going to
follow a Church that is from Jesus, passed through His
Apostles proclaiming the same Gospel for almost 2000
years, or a “confession”, built on individualism, that
was put together in 1646 that cannot substantiate the
claims it makes from the one source it says it gets all
of its substance from, that being Sacred Scripture
alone? Is it the
individual who decides for himself what Divine Revelation
is, how it is to be interpreted and lived out in Sacred
Worship? Or is it the Church that Christ gave us through
his apostles, guided by the Holy Spirit, which Sacred
Scripture gives us testimony to that decides? It is you
who must decide who you are going to follow.